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August 19, 2008
This post is written by Karlos DeMarko.
Many times when some guy is with the girl in the next room while the rest are parting just before he puts off her underwear she says: “STOP!”. Most of the guys try to beg the girl to let them fuck her but i personally think this is not what you have to do. In order to know how to deal with this shit we first have to know what is going on.
When a girl refuses to have sex with you even if she wants you badly is called Last Minute Resistance ( LMR ).
It is the same with men when they want to start conversation with some girl that they find attractive and potential sex partner. It is called First Minute Resistance. This is really interesting topic but now we will talk about women’s case - LMR.
First we will show 6 different kinds of Last Minute Resistance and some strategy for overcoming them. I have taken them from “The Magic Man” because i think he explained them pretty well.
LMR #1: She Hardly Knows You.
This is the most common form of LMR, and it occurs on almost all one night stands. The girl likes you and wants to hook up, but ultimately doesn’t know you very well and has concerns – are you just using her for sex? Will you think she’s a slut? Do you have any STD’s? This form of LMR is totally natural, and is built into each girl from a young age. It can happen at any point during the hookup – from you kissing her, to you touching her breasts, to you to trying to take her pants off. This form of LMR can be penetrated. The girl likes you and will have sex with you, but only if she knows there will be no repercussions afterward and she won’t feel bad about herself.
There are 2 strategies to combat this form of LMR:
1) Strategy to Overcome: Agree with Her in an Honest Manner
Difficulty Level: Easy
Her: “Oh my god, this is so bad, we hardly know each other.”
You: “You’re right, this is sooooo bad. We do hardly know each other and we should stop.”
Agreeing with her that you shouldn’t have sex sounds like a risky proposition; you are confirming that her doubts are indeed valid, so what’s to prevent her from just ending the hookup there? Fortunately, it doesn’t work that way. By agreeing with her, you’re showing her that you’re not all about sex, which means that you aren’t using her for sex, which means that you won’t think less of her for having sex with you this soon. On a subconscious level it might even go further, that because you’re not all about sex, you probably haven’t had that much sex, which means you are clean (STD-free). This might explain why girls don’t always require condoms, even after giving a guy LMR for the very reason that he might not be clean.
2) Strategy to Overcome: Agree with Her in a Joking Manner
Difficulty Level: Easy
Her: “Oh my god, this is so bad, we hardly know each other.”
You: “I agree, we should, so I’m going to stop unhooking your bra with my teeth.”
By agreeing with her in a joking manner, you are not taking her comments seriously, and by not taking her comments seriously, you’re showing that sex isn’t that big of a deal to you. A guy who instead rationally argues for why a woman’s LMR is unfounded is showing that he cares about sex, and thus might be using her for sex.
The first method is about neutralizing her LMR, while the second method is about being non-reactive. What the two methods have in common is that they both show (in indirect ways) that you are not all about sex, which is the root cause of LMR. Which one you choose doesn’t matter. If one doesn’t work then switch to the other. If using them both doesn’t work then do a freeze out, but make sure to never show any annoyance. If the freeze out doesn’t work then go to sleep and try again in the morning.
LMR #2: She does Push/Pull on You
This is never-ending LMR; the girl resists your advances one minute, attacks you in a fit of passion the next minute, and then pushes you away a minute later. It’s a continuous cycle, beginning the moment you kiss the girl and continuing up until the moment you climax. You’re constantly moving 2 steps forward and 1 step back, and then the cycle starts over the next time you hook up. These girls are generally very confident and outgoing, and derive more pleasure out of the game aspect of the hookup than they do the actual sex.
There are 3 different strategies to overcome this kind of LMR
1) Strategy to Overcome: Do Push/Pull on Them
Difficulty Level: Fairly Easy
This form of LMR is a direct shit-test that girls consciously attempt. They want to know that you’re manly enough to see through it and not be broken down. The best way to overcome it is to neutralize their push/pull by doing it back to them. When she pulls away, attack her. When she attacks you, pull away. By doing this same thing to her (which probably no guy has in the past), she’ll view you as having equal status to her and she’ll also see you as someone that she does not yet have under her sexual spell. The only way to get control of you is to give you sex and make you come back for more.
2) Strategy to Overcome: Push until the Very End, then do a Freeze Out.
Difficulty Level: Medium
The pushing will progress you slowly towards sex, but then at the very end she will most likely freeze you out and end the hookup. To counter this, you need to freeze her out first. This strategy should also work, but will take much longer and will only break down her resistance in the end, whereas the first strategy completely neutralizes her resistance from the start.
3) Strategy to Overcome: Put the Condom on and Fuck Her
Difficulty Level: Medium
This strategy is controversial for obvious reasons, and not advised. Subconsciously the girl wants you to physically overpower her. Her attacking you is a test to see if you’re strong enough to overpower her, both mentally (by not being phased) and physically (by overpowering her). By physically overpowering her, you prove your strength as an alpha male, and these girls only want to fuck the most alpha of males. Also, being rough is what turns these girls on sexually; kissing does not go as far. By being rough with her, you reach a point where the girl is so turned on that she can’t say no.
LMR #3: She Wants to Know that She’s Different
This LMR happens when the girl wants to make sure she’s special to you. This could be because she feels a real connection to you, and thinks it could blossom into a relationship. In this case she doesn’t want to potentially jeopardize something good by sleeping with you. It could also be because she knows you’re a player and doesn’t want to give herself away like all those other girls; she wants to know that she means more.
Strategy to Overcome: none
Difficulty Level: Hard
This LMR is not spontaneous the way the other kinds of LMR are; it is strategically planned ahead of time by the girl. In that sense it isn’t really LMR at all; it’s only included here because you never know when it might occur. This is the kind of LMR that Style got when he told girls he’s a PUA, and even he couldn’t overcome it (not in the short term at least). The good news is that if you continue to have tight game then she’ll definitely have sex with you eventually. In this sense, it’s probably best to just wait until a Day 2 or Day 3.
LMR #4: She’s Prudish
This LMR has little to do with typical anti-slut defense and more to do with her lack of sexual experience and prudish nature. Some girls, no matter how tight your game is, will simply not hook up with you the first night. Because of their lack of sexual experience and introverted personalities, these girls are overly self-conscious and take longer to get out of their comfort zone. A typical HB party girl will rarely fall into this category, as they’ve had enough social interaction and sexual experience that they are comfortable. On the other hand, a young girl that you met in the library might fall into this category. She has fewer guys hitting on her and is still not fully comfortable around the opposite sex.
Strategy to Overcome: Build Deep Rapport and Mix with Kino
Difficulty Level: Hard
Stay in comfort has long as possible with these girls and build a lot of rapport. Go heavy on the routines and cold reads. Go light with kino at first and then slowly build it up. Mix the kino in with your routines; if you touch her when she is having an emotional realization, it will be ingrained in her subconscious and she will feel more comfortable around you. Ultimately, this probably won’t be enough, and she won’t sleep with you for the same reasons that your high school girlfriend made you wait 6 months; she’s just not comfortable getting physical.
One more warning: do not push too hard! If you do too much to bring a girl out of her sexual comfort zone, she’ll be gone forever. It’s your job to heed the warning signs and decide when to shut down and wait for another night.
LMR #5: She Doesn’t Want to Screw Over Her Friend
This LMR occurs when her concerns about a good female friend outweigh her concerns about hooking up with you. It can happen in any of the following instances:
1) You previously dated her close female friend
2) She knows your girlfriend personally
3) She doesn’t want to leave her female friend alone with your creepy roommate
#1 is the most serious kind because the friend will probably find out about it, thus putting their friendship in jeopardy, which matters more to her than you do (at the moment at least). #2 is less serious because the girlfriend is less likely to find out, and #3 is the least serious. Note that this form of LMR does NOT include instances where a female friend tells her that you’re an asshole and that she shouldn’t hook up with you. People don’t like to be controlled, and this will mostly likely make her want you more.
Strategy to Overcome: Take Full Responsibility
Difficulty Level: Medium/Easy
If the LMR involves #1 or #2, do not rationally argue that the female friend in question isn’t a big deal, and that she won’t find out. Instead, agree with the girl that what you’re doing is “so bad”, but that it just “happened”, and that if the friend finds out that you’ll take full responsibility.
If the LMR involves #3, then just make sure the friends are as comfortable as possible in the living room. Chat them up before you take your girl in the bedroom. Have them play with your puppy. Once you have your target isolated in your room, then come out of the room to get a drink, ask how the movie is, then go back into your room.
LMR #6: She has a Boyfriend
If you meet a girl in a bar and she has a boyfriend, she may or may not tell you. If she does not tell you then that’s a clear indication she’s willing to hookup, and this form of LMR will not happen. If she does tell you then it’s harder, but not impossible. This form of LMR will be similar to the first kind of LMR (she hardly know you), as she will say things like “this is so bad” or “I can’t believe I’m doing this.”
Strategy to Overcome: Pretend that you have a Girlfriend and Take Full Responsibility
Difficulty Level: Medium
By pretending that you have a girlfriend, you are relieving her of some guilt. She’s not the only one cheating; you are too. Take full responsibility for all escalation and talk about how much she turns you on. Chances are her boyfriend isn’t giving her this much attention, and you’ll look better as a result. Do not justify why she should cheat on her boyfriend, and do not discuss similarities between your mutual predicaments. Frame the hookup around you being the bad one, and that you were just so turned down by her that you couldn’t control yourself and one thing led to another and it just happened.
No LMR:
Most guys think only more experienced women who are comfortable with their sexuality do not give LMR. This is not true; there are actually 5 different types of girls who do not give LMR:
1) Cougars; older women who are single and don’t get out much.
They have outgrown any slut complexes they used to have, and are just out to have a fun time and satisfy their own needs.
2) Unattractive girls, particularly “fat chicks.”
These girls never get hit on and have few opportunities for sex. To make matters worse, they constantly see their hot friends being hit on and hooking up. If an opportunity does not come up, they don’t want to squander it.
3) Younger girls (18-19) who have not yet acquired a slut complex.
These girls have only had sex with a couple guys in their life, and they’re horny for more. The problem is that they have few opportunities for sex because guys their age suck at pickup, and the girls aren’t old enough to go to places (bars, clubs) where they can meet older, more experienced guys.
4) Girls on vacation
Girls on vacation have no slut complexes because they know they’re never going to see anyone again. Thus they have no reputation to worry about, nor do they have worry about the guy calling the next day. Also, this is one time when it’s deemed OK and even traditional to hookup (i.e. spring break, Vegas), so girls can drop their guard for a few days without fear of consequence.
5) Girls who are on the rebound
These girls just got out of a relationship and want to go crazy for a night. This is another rare time where it’s deemed acceptable for girls to hookup, so they temporarily drop their anti-slut defense, as well as their standards. If you’re a guy who hooks up with these girls, you’re getting “lucky.”
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